Why discard bean soaking water?

by LarryC
(Portsmouth, VA USA)

Recently, I found myself alone and having to now cook for myself. Dried beans are an old favorite and I have stocked up on several types. I wanted to be sure I was doing it right (or not) when I cooked them so I have been looking on the Web.

All of the directions I see say to drain the soaked beans and rinse them before cooking. What I have always done is to soak them and then cook them right in the same pan and soaking water. Why is this not OK? Why would the soaking water not be better that fresh tap water? And lastly, would my beans improve in any way if I changed my method and discarded the soaking water, and used fresh water for cooking instead?

My beans (usually Pintos) are always very dark and taste great. Maybe they could be even better?

I understand that this is a minor issue but I am surprised that I cannot find the answer to this question. There MUST be a reason since all directions that soak, do it this way. Thanks for any help.

Signed: A lost old male cook. Named: Larry

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Hi Larry -- Very good question. Perhaps we should begin with WHY you are soaking the beans in the first place.

Firstly, soaking allows the beans to release indigestible sugars that make for some uncomfy gaseous situations, IF you know what I mean. ;O)

Soaking also makes the beans more digestible. It cleans them more thoroughly (since beans cannot be washed before being sold or they can turn moldy). Finally, soaking beans helps them to cook up in about half the time.

So after the beans have soaked for a while, the soaking water now contains these elements that you are trying to eliminate by soaking the beans in the first place.

And this is why the bean water is discarded. So it is best to drain the water and rinse the beans thoroughly before cooking.

By the way, you can feed this water to plants. They love it. :O)

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Jun 10, 2010
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why discard soaking water
by: Anonymous

I haven't really found a definitive answer to this either. I cannot find it specifically stated that there is anything in the soaking water that could be harmful (except dirt - which you could easily wash off prior to soaking).
I know that it is said certain things are converted to other things - but I haven't read that anything is actually leached out of the beans into the water.

Nov 22, 2010
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The real reason is:
by: Joe

Because grandma always did it that way!

Of course when she bought them they cane in baskets and sometimes had stones and chunks of dirt and the occasional shriveled bean included -- which is why they needed to be picked over first.

I've been doing dried beans for 50 years now (but probably only a few times per year), and I think I've encountered 2 or 3 stones in that time -- and probably none in the past 30 years. On the other hand, I'm using store-bought packaged beans.

I've almost never discarded the water and rinsed the beans.

joe

Dec 08, 2010
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Simple answer -- don't discard it
by: Anonymous

There's no reason to discard soaking water. In fact, there's hardly any reason to soak.

Why? It's true that soaking decreases cooking time, but not significantly. At most, it may take 3 hours of slow simmering instead of 2 hours following an overnight soak. For some beans, the difference may only be 15-30 minutes.

But the other reason for soaking is supposedly to remove things that can cause gas. Recent research has shown these things fall into two categories -- one is easily soluble in water, and some percentage of it will be removed by slow soaking (not as much by a quick/hot soak). But the other stuff isn't removed significantly by soaking -- the only way to get rid of it in appreciable quantities is long, slow cooking which causes it to break down chemically.

So, soaking has no significant advantage here -- the long, slow simmer of unsoaked beans will get rid of about as much (if not more) gas-causing stuff as will discarding the soaking water.

Only the other hand, by discarding the soaking water, you not only get rid of a few gas-causing things, but also LOTS of water-soluble nutrients. The pretty color your soaking water turns is not due to the gas-causing stuff... it's lots of other GOOD stuff leaching out of your beans.

In short, don't discard the water. Instead, simply pick over the beans to remove stones and dirt, then rinse thoroughly -- I usually put them in water for 5-10 minutes, stirring them around a few times, then drain. And then rinse quickly with water and drain 2-3 more times to get as much dirt out as possible.

But then I go straight to cooking. Fill with cold water, put over a low flame, and by the time the water comes to a simmer, the beans will have soaked up enough to prevent later bursting, as long as a slow simmer is maintained.

Some recipes may benefit from the texture of pre-soaked beans, but I haven't soaked in a couple years, and honestly I think my beans taste better than ever.

Dec 09, 2010
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Thank you
by: Sassy

Big thank you to those of you who have shared your point of view regarding whether or not beans must be soaked before cooking.

As we have learned, there is more than one way to look at this topic. So I recommend we all do a bit of experimentation in our own kitchens...

For a week or two, soak your beans before cooking them. For the next week or two, skip the soaking before cooking.

How do they taste to you? Any difference to your intestinal comfort? Did the beans take much longer to cook unsoaked?

Would love to hear how your experiments go out there in your kitchen laboratories. ;O) xo

Dec 09, 2010
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Add Seaweed to your beans to make them cook quicker
by: Matt

I find that if you soak your beans in kombu seaweed overnight your beans will cook more than half the time (from 2-3 hours to 45 minutes - 1 hour. It also makes a great broth to the beans and adds nutrition. Try it out, it's delicious.

Mar 14, 2011
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I don't discard
by: Barb

My 93-yr old mother in our home wants beans and cornbread all the time. I fix a pot about once a week but insist she eats lots of other healthy foods also. I think if you don't throw out your soaking water, it may cause intestinal discomfort at first but after weeks of eating beans, your body adjusts. Now we just clean and cook and love the flavor.

Mar 14, 2011
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Thanks!
by: Sassy

Thank you Matt and Barb for sharing your bean stories with us. :)

So you are saying that you cook your beans in the water you also soak them in, is that correct? xo

Apr 25, 2011
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I keep the water
by: Claudette

I had always discarded the soaking water, because that is what I was told to do. Then I noticed that the flavor went with it. I don't discard anymore, they taste better, and there are no gaseous symptoms. I say keep the water-and the nutrients.

Aug 04, 2011
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My development of the beans
by: LarryC the OP

Thanks to you all for your thoughts. Claudette, I am with you. I tried throwing out the soaking water and the beans tasted so flat. The great flavor was gone and the broth looked and tasted like water, by comparison.

Update: My favorite way to cook and eat them now (Red Kidneys are what I use) is to cook a pot of brown rice (1.5 cups dry/6 servings) and a pound of chopped collards (6 servings) with the pound of red kidney beans (6 servings). NOT TOGETHER, lol.

I pick and wash the dry beans and then bring them to a boil with the added ingredients below, boil a few minutes then turn off heat (covered). Let them set for an hour or two. Then I cook the 1.5 C brown rice with 3 C water. While it simmers for 50 minutes, the beans boil very low, same time, 50 min.. After 50 min., I heat up (to boiling) a pound of frozen chopped collards in a corning ware bowl in the microwave, with 3/4 C water and 1/4 C vinegar.

A bowl, one meal is made as follows and I eat one every day. Makes 6 meals.:

From fridge (beginning on second meal) I put one serving 1/6 of total) of the brown rice in the bowl. Then one serving (again, 1/6) collards on top. Add a few tablespoons of ketchup, salt and, Original Juan's 100% Pain hot sauce. Microwave for 1:40 min. Then cover with beans (1/6 total) and microwave again for 2:40 min. That's it. Six great meals. Yummy!

Also, when I cook the beans, I add 2 big red onions chopped, a handful of ground Cayenne, black pepper and garlic powder (maybe 1/3 cup or more ea.). Also a tablespoon of olive or Canola oil to prevent foaming over.

BTW, I do not have more gas that normal. Maybe I am just used to this wonderful creation, lol.

Extremely nutritious and just gets better with age up to the 6th day. :) I plan to try tomato paste instaed of the ketchup next time. What a cook I have become! LOL :)

Aug 06, 2011
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Go Larry!
by: Sassy

Thanks, Larry, for sharing your easy recipes with us. I love the bold flavors you use as well. Although the sound of the 100% Pain hot sauce is making me wince slightly. ;)

Aug 06, 2011
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An afterthought...
by: LarryC

Yes, Sassy, the flavors are indeed fantastic and I have never tired of them. I used to put a bit of brown sugar in with the collards and that was awesome but, I quit doing that for I felt too guilty. And, I AM a heart patient.

A typical bowl/meal is a bit over 300 calories as I make it. Not bad. My last lab (blood) was perfect and I lost enough weight to please the doctor and look good again. He said I really did a good job. Point being, I owe it all (nearly) to the 'famous' beans, lol. And, it all started here! Thank you! :)

Aug 07, 2011
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YES!!
by: Sassy

Wow! Fantastic, Larry!!! You must be so proud of yourself. I am certainly cheering for you over here and am very happy that you took things into your own hands and made some amazing changes to your health. And proven the old rhyme is true, beans ARE good for your heart. :)

B.R.A.V.O.! xo

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