Is soy healthy?

by SUSAN
(Slingerlands, NY)

When discussing my new vegan lifestyle with my nutritionist, he said to totally avoid soy/products. Apparently, the results of processing soy are the culprits (i.e. tofu), possibly causing cancer and/or hormonal (estrogen) problems?

I don't know that I understood all he said, but thought I should ask you about it. I have been eating a lot of beans to provide my protein, but will it be enough, and exactly how much protein should I be concerned about getting, anyway?

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Hi Susan - You have touched upon a topic that is the cause of much debate. I can only share my personal thoughts and opinions, along with a healthy dose of personal experience.

When I went veg back in 1994, I was pretty clueless about how to create ANYTHING (veg or not!) in the kitchen. My diet was focused on lots of vegetables, fruits and pasta. Pretty much the same foods over and over again. And it actually worked beautifully for me. I lost about 20 pounds almost overnight ("working out" was NOT in my vocabulary, but hubby Jeff and I did a ton of walking which likely contributed to my weight loss). I looked great and felt fabulous and energetic.

Then I discovered soy. Now, I thought tofu was sort of strange, so I didn't make it a lot. But when I did it was usually mixed up with veggies, or cooked into a quiche -- MAYBE once every two weeks.

But by 1998, I began to notice all the soy-based faux meats and cheeses in our natural foods store. I latched onto these products as though my life depended on it! They were just SO GOOD and really satisfied our tastebuds.

It wasn't unusual for me to have a glass of soymilk with breakfast (usually on cereal), a vegetarian ham sandwich with soy cheese for lunch, a tofu pot pie for dinner, and soy pudding for dessert. Ack!

Fast forward to 2005, when for the first time I realized that I had slowly but surely been gaining weight in my belly, butt and underneath my upper arms. It had happened so slowly, that I honestly hadn't even noticed. And in looking back at journals, I was able to see how much MORE I was able to accomplish in a day, comparatively speaking. My complexion, hair, and nails had become more dull and sad looking. My eyes just weren't as bright. I was depressed more often -- and I'm normally one of those sickeningly happy people (!). Something was definitely wrong.

And that's when I came across information about soy. As I said, this is a topic of fierce debate, so I'd like to state again that this is my personal experience, combined with my studies...

What I learned is that the soy topic is not black and white. Some soy foods are okay to eat, and some are not.

As a general rule, soy contains anti-nutrients and is a very difficult food to digest, overall.

But fermented soy such as tempeh contains beneficial bacteria and is actually easier to digest.

I think the confusion comes in because "soy" covers such a b-r-o-a-d range of products, from soy cheeses and faux meats to edamames to tofu to tempeh to miso and more! Make no doubt about it, soy is big business, and just as with any natural foods they can be made to be unhealthy. (Contrary to popular belief, the manufacturers of some of these soy foods MAY NOT have your best interests at heart).

Also, soybeans contain a large amount of plant estrogens. This is why soy is recommended to women who are going through menopause because the estrogen mimics their own depleting estrogen. So soy can be helpful in this instance.

But when we ingest soy products on a regular basis, we might create what's known as "estrogen dominance". You can imagine how surprised I was to discover that estrogen dominance can cause weight gain in the belly, butt and underneath the upper arms in women (who are usually the ones most affected by estrogen dominance) -- the very areas I was having the most challenges. And to expand on this thought, these enlarged fatty tissues produce MORE estrogen which induce even more fat gain! Oy!

After removing soy milk, soy meats, soy cheeses and other processed soy foods from my diet, for the most part and on a regular basis, I began to notice positive changes in myself. It certainly didn't happened overnight, but it DID happen. My weight slowly but surely returned to a normal and healthy weight for my height, and as a result my skin looks healthy and clear, my hair is thicker and shinier, my nails are stronger, my happiness and exuberance for life has returned.

Of course, I do occasionally indulge in, say, a veggie pepperoni and soy cheese pizza, but nowadays processed soy is a treat instead of a main protein source.

Tempeh and miso, which is fermented soy, is a regular part of my diet. Tofu is less regular, but I usually combine it with vegetables to ensure balance.

So here's my recommendation: Experiment on yourself. Remove ALL soy products from your diet for a period of 1 month, including the fermented stuff like tempeh. See if you notice a difference in yourself.

Keep a journal so you can keep track of your weight, measurements, emotions, etc. Then slowly but surely, and one at a time, add in first the fermented stuff and then the processed soy and see how you feel after the addition of each one. What feels good to you, may not feel good to me, and vice versa.

And have no fears. We really don't need these soy products to survive. There are MANY OTHER sources of protein, including beans, nuts and nut butters, seeds and seed butters, veggies, grains and fruits -- basically everything else!

For a more detailed discussion about vegan protein, please visit the page on my site dedicated to this topic: Vegan Protein.

Hope this very long explanation has helped in some small way. :O)

xo

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Is soy healthy?

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Jan 06, 2010
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I have the same question.
by: Anonymous

I am wondering the same thing. I would like to go vegan, but don't want to include processed soy in my diet. I have been reading a lot about processed soy being bad for you. What are examples of unprocessed soy and are they okay??

Jan 10, 2010
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Thanks
by: Sassy

Thanks for participating! Since I answered the original question after you posted, please let me know if you have more questions or need further clarification. :)

Feb 03, 2010
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Soy in Moderation
by: Krista

Hi,

I just want to say that soy is a very complicated subject....the bad rap about soy is more with the GMO issue, as well as the processed "meats" you see in stores. Watch out for processed snacks that sneak in soy powder, etc. (Also, don't be mislead by articles you read online, just focus on those with credible research studies!)

The key: to consume the least processed foods, strive for all natural, and eat everything in moderation/have a well balanced diet. This is good advice in general, not just for soy foods.

As a vegan, the main soy products I consume regularly include soy milk, tofu, and roasted unsalted soy nuts (a great source of protein and fiber). For non-dairy milk alternatives, soy milk is the most affordable and most available...otherwise it's hard to be thrifty vegan and completely avoid soy.

Just thought to let you know my thoughts on soy! As a graduate with a nutritional science degree, I thought the advice I learned in school would be helpful.

Thanks,
Krista

Feb 10, 2010
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Soy is an allergen
by: Anonymous

Sassy thank you for your informative article. I have also removed ALL SOY PRODUCTS from our foods (I read all the labels carefully - not hard as I use very very few packaged products).
It was simple for me - as my stomach let me know very quickly that it was not digestible (for my system).
I noted that soy is sounding very strong warning bells for experts who had been extolling the virtues of soy products for children who could not use cow's milk and those products.
It would appear that soy is causing huge problems - the rise in allergic re-actions and their severity is increasing every year.
I have chemical sensitivity and look at everything I use, eat and put on my skin (as well as avoiding all sprays etc.) So over the years I have noted a lot of changes in the quality (or should I say the lack of it) in our foods.
And I can only suggest to avoid highly processed and GMO products - your body and your health will be better for it.
Cheers Peggy

Jun 24, 2010
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Genetic differences
by: Amina

Sassy, my naturopath discourages adding soy to the diets of her non-Asian clients because her studies reveal that they generally lack the genes necessary for proper digestion of it. Have you heard of this point of view? That may explain why you, a Caucasian, had difficulty with soy products; whereas Asians thrive on it.

Jul 16, 2010
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Yeah right.
by: Anonymous

I would like to see the research you have, to back it up. Maybe you are just intolerant to soy. I, personally, (and I am caucasian) love soy, and I eat it 3-4 times a day. I have more energy, more stamina, more muscle than when I was only eating fruits/veggies and such. I believe it is a person to person thing. Get your facts straight, and from the scientific world before you claim something.

Jul 16, 2010
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In all fairness...
by: Sassy

Hi Anonymous: In all fairness to Amina, she wasn't making claims, as far as I can see. She was simply asking the question based on what her naturopath believes.

Please be courteous and play nice.

Amina, as I said, this is simply based on my own personal experience. One should always experiment on themselves to see what works - because generally what works for one may not work for another.

Personally, I would have to do my own research before I concluded the whole Caucasian/Asian digestion argument. I have learned over the years not to put too much stock in what anyone says because there are usually 3 sides to every story. ;O)


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hypothyroidism and soy
by: Brandi

Hi Sassy,
So glad I just discovered your site! I've been (was) a vegetarian/vegan for 8 years. Six years into it (about three years ago) I started sleeping 14-16 hours a day and feeling exhausted. A year ago I finally went to a dr for blood work and discovered I had hypothyroidism. my dr. knew I was a vegetarian and asked how much I consumed soy. My husband and I ate it quite regularly, in veganaise, earth balance, edemame, soy milk, soy dogs, crap soy food once in a while. tempeh. no tofu, though.

I quite eating soy and started taking b12 sublinguals (I was dangerously low). I dreamt of steaks and meat and didn't recognize my own urges and feelings. I started eating red meat only. just because of the urges! nothing else because it's gross to me. but i dream of this.

i want to get away from it. i'm not happy with my diet, but miss edemame and tempeh. i haven't had soy since. what do you think?

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